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how many people have been to the catfish
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conference how many are new whoo
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hey all right so we’re gonna have some
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fun today hopefully I can share some of
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my knowledge with you all I’m going to
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be talking on fishing for trophy channel
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cats not eaters but the big guys what is
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the channel cat’s diet
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this is trophy channel cats remember
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that so anything that they can eat that
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gonna lie
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keep deserted anything that they can eat
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live dead or cold seriously most
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anything here are a few of their
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favorites night crawlers crayfish pearl
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dads soft crow miners’ everybody knows
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what mirror is right okay
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oh that young man you know what a mentor
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is okay so guys like these are as old as
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dirt never learn what a minnow was we
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all call miners’ so now so we all we we
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call them miners’ and that’s it’s the
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same as I don’t call a sandwich a
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sandwich I call it a sammich you know so
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yeah Simmons
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so so they eat frogs crickets chicken
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lures chubs shad skipjack shrimp Ivory
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soap hot dog CBS I SJP oh boy
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everybody’s looking like Oh what is that
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anybody got any idea don’t have a clue
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all right so I retired last year and I
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worked 17 years with the pharmaceutical
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industry and you know with the drugs you
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know some of those names
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are really really long so they taught us
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how to condense and enunciate words so
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that you know you wouldn’t have to spell
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it out so CB s is JP is chicken breast
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soap in strawberry jell-o powder you
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know it’s a it’s a good bait works well
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on you know it’s red you know they think
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it’s blood
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you know I dragged that stuff along so
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Kotaro worms corpsman who say what say
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what yeah how do you do that on the hood
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oh you can’t get it on a hook but this
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old guy okay
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so there’s a corpsman you know this guy
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just looking at this picture this guy
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has an attitude I can tell right now
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these guys right here eat one thing and
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one thing only that is shed and they
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winners but what happens they eat all
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day long if anybody’s ever seen these
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guys they fly about that high off of a
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lake and when they’re in the water it’s
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really cool to watch them in the water
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because they when they are going after
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shad and any kind of bait they’re
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swimming the same way they fly so it’s
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you know they’re just all over
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everywhere they’re like skip guys
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they’re just everywhere when you get one
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of these caught in the cast net is not a
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fun thing to do you know it’s just a
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date they they start stabbing at you and
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you know that beats it’s sharp
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it hurts when they hit you but what I do
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is I keep an eye on where these guys go
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and what they’re doing because they are
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feeding on the bait that the catfish are
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feeding on so you know I keep an eye on
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him what happens is when they get up in
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trees and roost
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and you know they lift their tail and
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then
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that hits the water it’s pure protein
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catfish come right up and they just
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start working that so if you’re along
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you know I’m always looking along banks
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and that for those guys right there I’m
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and I think later on on my as I’m going
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here I’ll touch more on that so my
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favorite baits these are my favorites
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for channel cats gizzard shad number one
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skipjack is number two and it’s close to
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number one but I’m only using those
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skipjacks that are about that long and
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about as big as my thumb
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you see them in the spring of the year
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when it come to the dam they’re the
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first ones that come up you know John
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talked about you know skipjack run to
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the dam well these little guys show up
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first and then skipjacks or cannibals
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they come up second and they’re eating
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their own kind
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you know it’s junk air they just hit
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them so but when I I I freeze these and
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you can only use them one time so I’ll
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put like a dozen in a bag I just freeze
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them vacuum pack it and then I just you
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know break it out you’re only gonna get
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one use out of because their tissues
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break down too quick chubs chubs great
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bait I’m from Ohio I’m from Springfield
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Ohio we have them in the creek and I
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think I forgot to okay so there’s a give
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their cat right there
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there’s your skipjack and there’s the
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chub that I like to use I don’t know if
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that’s a name of it but I call these
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blue backs for obvious reasons he’s got
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a blue back what I like to do with these
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is I like to hook them right through the
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mouth right out the top of the head cut
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the tail off and they’re still live
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still wiggling throw them out they’re
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dragging along so
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rigs my favorite is a Carolina rig with
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a slope did I set one of them up no all
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right so Carolina rig hang on that is a
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it’s got weight slides this rig is this
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is running along the bottom and this is
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the float is bringing it here a lot of
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guys use the bobbers this is a whisker
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seeker it’s one of my favorites for
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channel cats because it’s got that prop
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on it it creates noise that creates
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vibration they track it down
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a6 off hook circle hook put a chunk of
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bait on there you know the shad skipjack
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and the chubs put them right on there
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and just start dragging along I’ll get
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to that later double hook rig it’s got
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two hooks on line one hook here and
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there’s another hook using the same
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method sometimes I’ll put a bobber in
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between the two hooks sometimes I don’t
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put a barber at all if I’m aren’t if I’m
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fishing mud flats and stuff like that I
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won’t use a bobber because you know the
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bobber actually makes your bait ride up
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and on mud slats a lot of times they’ll
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be a hunker down in the bottom so I want
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to hit him in the head with the bait as
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I’m dragging them along 3-way rig thank
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you Dad I do I do know I had that
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three way we rig is just what it says
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it’s got a three way rig this would go
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to your your hook would and yeah you see
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I didn’t put the hook on here I have a
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history of getting hung up on one of
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these things so no there’s no hooks on
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your hook would be right here three way
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the weight would be hanging down off of
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here this part goes to your main line
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one of the things when you’re using a
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three-way is make sure that the weight
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is going to the pole on your three-way
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and so you can see how that three onion
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it may not be easy to see it is for me
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because it’s right here
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but weights down here bait straight on
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back here
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that’s a three-way rig Kirby rig
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I named this I have never seen this
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before until last year when I fished
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with a very good friend of mine his
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named Joey Kirby and he showed me this
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rig and I have caught more fish
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especially channel cats but more so
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blues and flatheads on this rig alone
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this I think originally this is a trout
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rig of what they call a noisy trout rig
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that they use down in Florida well Joey
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bought a bunch of these and then he
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started experimenting and what I do is I
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run about a 24 to 18 inch lead you know
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hook on it
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main line goes attached to this this
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thing goes along but it’s the one kind
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of cool part about it it’s got a weight
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on it so a lot of times this thing will
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ride and what’s nice about this rig is
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it has a tendency of writing right over
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top of trees you can throw this thing
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right into a tree and it will almost
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always work its way out it’s what I mean
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you know and so I nicknamed that I
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called it the Kirby rig so and Joey’s
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been selling these things like crazy but
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this is an awesome awesome rig here
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yep tie that right to your mainline note
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the weights in front the weight would be
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to like on that’s three way yeah yeah I
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didn’t have one of these I was afraid
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I’d get stuck with one of these huh
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I have Carolina with this any other
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questions
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yeah the wait wait this is already got
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its weight because normally you fish
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this thing like that like a regular
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bobber you know now John did John say
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anything about this using skipjacks uh
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okay you didn’t give out one of the
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secrets did he Harley yeah okay yeah we
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use this to catch skipjacks to behind
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the planer board and what I’ll end up
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doing is I know it has nothing to do
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with channel cats but I like to share
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information John’s probably going to
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shoot me for this but I’ll put a
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skipjack grade on a planer board and
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then this will be at the very end of the
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the rig there be a fully spoon connected
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to this my skipjack rigs here the planer
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boards up there so this floats it and it
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all is kind of sitting there glowing
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like that and it just agitates them and
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it comes after so what’s that yeah
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hardly wants to know if that’s a kitchen
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sink Creek so I don’t know
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that’s going the wrong way
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okay demon dragons everybody everybody
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knows what demon dragon is okay they
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came out a few years ago Scott Manning
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had the company he sold the company
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I think tackle bandits owns the rights
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to it now
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I like the demon dragons except for
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channel cats I do a little bit of a
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twist and as you can see right here I’ve
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got a quick clip that’s attached to the
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center I’m gonna get my cell phone on
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this thing so the demon dragon I make it
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so I can I can move that demon dragon so
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I wind a leader through the demon dragon
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and you can move it all kinds of
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different ways depending on what these
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fish are doing if they’re staying tight
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to the bottom I move this demon I move
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this demon dragon up close to the weight
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so it doesn’t rise as much now that the
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back hook will be trailing along
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hopefully it doesn’t get hung up and
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then but if they’re high in the water
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column I take the demon dragon and I
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move it back here and then that demon
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the weights down here and the demon
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dragons are running along here and you
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know you know it can just kind of move
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back and forth like that I really like
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these things I’ve got some now they’re
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4.0 that are huge I mean and I didn’t
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think a channel cat would even touch
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these thing but they will they will hit
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them hard next are the whisker seekers
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I’ve been using whisker seekers for a
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long time this is a whisker seeker right
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here it’s got its own built-in float
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it’s got rattles in it and it’s the
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biggest thing with the channel cats is
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it’s got that prop it creates vibration
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it creates a noise as you’re dragging it
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along
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you know you put your baits on it again
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it’s got these quick clips I was a
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little apprehensive on these quick clips
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but they’re 250 pounds I’ve never had a
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fish break one time off or anything
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so and there’s a lot of people to sell
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these quick clips and I can change you
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know if the channels normally with the
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channels I’m using 6 off circle hooks if
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I’m starting to catch 14 pound channels
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and above I switch over to a taught
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circle hooks the Jean you know it just
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it gives you a lot more to get a hold of
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them
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sometimes our mouths are so big that the
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six won’t stick in there good the eight
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will so that’s another little bit of
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information on that what’s your secret
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okay methods of fishing my favorite
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method is planer boards well I am gonna
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stick myself before it’s over with
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yeah I may need band-aids for today’s
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over so my favorite method is they
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offshore planning our boards dragon
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baits with it
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suspending baits underneath of a planer
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board if I see if I look on my
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electronics and I see the fish are
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suspended off to the bottom maybe five
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to ten feet I will put out yeah I’m not
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believe that does good like that so I’ll
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put out you know I if I see they’re ten
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foot you know
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I bring out ten foot a line on the
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planer board hook the planer board up to
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it drop it down and run that planer
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broiler right into that zone right there
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so a lot of people most of the time I’m
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I’m just taking the baits and I’m
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throwing them out I hooked a planer
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board up to it put the planer board out
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there just start dragging along you know
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mosa and I run two planer boards if I’m
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by myself I’m only allowed to run two
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poles so I try to get the grandkids
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anybody the ODNR frowns upon my dog
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running a pole but you know I I don’t
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push the deal on it even though he’s one
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of my kids you know so under a float and
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when we’re talking under a float this is
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a kind of float that I like to use I
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make I make my own and all this is a
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pool noodle this float here is about
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I don’t know 18 years old so you know
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you can’t bust it and I’ve never had an
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issue with it and it still works but
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it’s if you are working trees that are
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you know standing up or even trees that
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are underneath the water and you can
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figure out how deep those fish are
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you’re going to adjust it to where you
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want it let it fire out there if they
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don’t want to take the bait then all you
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have to do is just start reeling the
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floaties
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a little bit at a time until you find
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that zone that they’re in so this is one
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another one in my favor yes sir
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well there’s a please I don’t think
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they’re made anymore but see I’m going
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myself here
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these are closet rod ends and they go
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inside of a metal and I haven’t been
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able to find them so I seem to be the
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only one who still has a penis so unless
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somebody comes up with a better idea you
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know but that’s what those are and
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there’s a plastic there’s a Windy’s
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plastic straw inside so and it’s glued
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so you know you know it’s not you can’t
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crush this I mean I’ve seen the fish
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come up I’ve had I’ve taught flatheads
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and I’ve seen him come up and and have
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the back of the bobber in their mouth
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because you know they’re chasing their
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bait
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yes sir I use circle hooks on everything
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yeah yeah because when they pull that
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float down you know it’ll go down a
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couple of times and then boom it’s gone
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on a big channel cat you don’t see a
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couple of times it’s just boom it’s gone
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and what’s kind of what’s kind of cool
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about it is you know you’ll have lights
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you know I all I did was drill a hole
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through I put a Kalen light in there and
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it’s really neat to green kids love it
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they get a track it and then when a big
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fish hits you know the water it
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disappears and then it’s running under
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the water and they’re watching the globe
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don’t let the fit don’t let the fish run
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because man they’re just eating it up
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but yeah it’s kind of cool when when the
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big ones hit this thing right here it’s
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the same as doing a planer board you
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know in Jaws when he took the barrel off
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and he saw the barrel going off that’s
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exactly what the waters rushing right
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over top of them
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what else I got drifting dead sticking
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drip okay so drifting some people call
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it dragging where I saw mark here
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earlier I don’t know what he what he did
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what he calls it I think maybe he might
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call it trolling but what I’m doing is
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I’m taking the baits I’m throwing them
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out behind the boat and I’m drifting
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dragging them along that’s my one of my
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favorite ways to catch a no cats dead
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sticking is where the rod is in a rod
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holder and it’s out the side of the boat
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and I drop the baits to the bottom and I
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crank them up so they’re not dragging in
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the mud or on the structure moving the
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boat along the whole time but it gets
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really exciting because you know that
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rod sitting out there and then all of a
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sudden instead it’s four or five I down
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into the water which is you know green
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kids love trying to get the rod out so
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grandpa has to you know help them get to
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right oh and even adults you get a
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twenty-pound channel that buries one of
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them rods they’re tough to get get the
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rod out of the rod over dragging using
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drift socks now I got I got hopefully I
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don’t
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like I think it was Matt Jones when he
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come up here and talk he said he wasn’t
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an artist yeah he’s not an artist he’s
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good talker but he can’t he can’t draw
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and I am then no better than he is but I
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will show you something that I could not
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I found a picture on the web and I’m not
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gonna so vote yeah okay sure
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planar board planar board
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drift sucks okay got that thereby kind
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understand what I’m doing here boat is
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moving
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I’m already wrong plan board planer
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board boat is moving that way wind is
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moving this way fish are 10 to 12 foot
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off of the banks most of your banks on
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reservoirs come out 20 foot and there’s
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like pea gravel and small rocks a lot of
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times those fish want to run those areas
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chasing bait and stuff like that
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well when the wind is blowing the
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natural thing for the boat to do is to
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go to the bank so if you have issues put
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out drift socks on the windward side of
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the boat and then you can drag all your
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baits right along that bank and stay
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right where that ledge is and the boat
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will not move you know you’re using a
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trolling motor dragging the boat
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dragging your base so that’s what I’m
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talking about when I’m dragging using
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drift socks and you can do that with
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suspending – especially on both sides if
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you got more than you can right I have
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run as many as four planer boards per
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side on a boat so it takes it a little
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bit of work and you got to have somebody
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knows what they’re doing especially if
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you have two rods go down or Americo is
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four rods going down with with that any
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questions
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they will but they’re constantly pulling
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so they’re constantly pulling so the
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back of the boat the tendency for the
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boat is to go back that way the drifts
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off keep it from doing that this is an
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old walleye trip that those guys use
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rhod actions
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I like fast tips and when we talking
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about fast tips please don’t hit up
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I got a band I’m very wanting circles in
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my finger okay so this is a fairly soft
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tip now on my long rod that I have right
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here behind me it’s got real soft tip
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when we talk about the good backbone
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that’s this area right here so that it
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will set the hook the other thing is as
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you’re dragging stuff along you’re gonna
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you’re going to run into wood and stuff
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like that this rod will load up and then
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it will pop up and you know especially
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if you’re dragging through trees when I
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fish wheeler lake and Wilson Lake and
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Alabama I you know I’m using heavier
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rods but I dragged through cedar trees
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and cedar trees are like dragging over
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rough concrete so these you need a rod
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that will give a little bit and then
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it’ll pop up generally if you’re
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dragging baits through a tree and what
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I’ve I’ve seen is the rod goes down
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where it gets caught on a tree it pops
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up and then boom they hammer it because
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they’re sitting right there by that tree
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channel cats love to be around wood so
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you know you just kind of got to use a
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combination of dragging or floating and
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that kind of stuff I think I forgot to
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okay one other thing one of the things I
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tried last year I don’t normally like to
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anchor fish I I have to stay on the move
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I don’t know why I just it’s just you
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know I I guess when I was a young man
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that’s all we did we anchored fished but
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something I tied with last year and I
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found out works real well I normally do
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not anchor from the rear
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of the boat but if I’m fishing for
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channel cats that are stuck to a
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shoreline and the wind is blowing into
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that shoreline for several years I went
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and was giving seminars and I was
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telling people that fished the windward
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side of a shore that pushes the bait to
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the bank the fish are going to be in
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there while I was doing that seminar
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bill dance walked up so I immediately
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got nervous as soon as I seen him he’s
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standing there watching me talk so at
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the end of my seminar you know he walked
27:20
up I said what do you think bill he goes
27:23
pretty good but you know oh I hate to
27:27
hear but especially from him and I he
27:31
said you’re 50% right he said the wind
27:36
doesn’t lose the shad the wind moves the
27:40
bait that the shad feed on so
27:43
zooplankton algae the wind pushes that
27:47
bait the shad come in behind that they
27:50
start feeding on that and then you know
27:53
here come the channel cats or blue cats
27:56
flathead they come right in behind him
27:58
so you know that that was a good lesson
28:01
you know I’m glad bill didn’t say hey
28:04
you’re wrong you know so short versus
28:09
long on the polls this is okay so this
28:16
is one of my favorites especially when
28:18
I’m dragging lines that are straight out
28:23
the back of the boat so this is a 6,500
28:26
reel I don’t know how much line it holds
28:30
but it’s right now it’s got braid on it
28:32
but when I throw this rod out the back
28:36
I run half of the spool off of it half
28:40
the school of the line so it is probably
28:42
a hundred and fifty maybe two hundred
28:45
feet maybe farther than that behind the
28:47
boat what is nice about the long
28:51
is the fact that it has a different
28:53
angle because it is so long that as you
28:59
drag through trees and stuff it’ll just
29:02
kind of give and it it just literally
29:05
lifts the bait and lifts a float right
29:08
up and over top of the trees so I use
29:12
long rods when it comes to dragging
29:16
straight back off the back of the boat
29:19
when I’m using the planer boards I’m
29:23
using the TWC’s they’re a little bit
29:25
heavier to be used and they’ll still
29:30
load up on the catfish when it comes to
29:35
the planer boards
29:36
I used Offshore’s
29:40
on my planer boards you see a right and
29:44
a left
29:45
okay so I would tell my grandkids port
29:49
and starboard grandkids don’t understand
29:52
what port and starter is you know so I
29:54
had to devise a way to teach them my
29:58
grandkids I’ve taught all my grandkids
30:00
they know how to put a planer board on
30:02
so all I have to do is throw the baits
30:04
out they take they handle the planer
30:07
board so what I ended up doing you know
30:09
I told them right and left well when
30:12
you’re looking at the back of a boat the
30:16
planer you what you think is the
30:18
planning board on the right is over here
30:20
but what it is what I taught my
30:22
grandkids this is right so that planer
30:25
board over there that’s the right planer
30:27
board this is the left cleaner board so
30:30
a lot of times a lot of people don’t
30:32
know how to use those planer boards so
30:34
that’s how I teach them how to use a
30:37
planer board right it’s on that side of
30:40
the boat left is on this side because
30:42
the planer boards are designed so from
30:45
the front of the boat you know so the
30:47
rights if the boats going that way the
30:49
right sides that way left on that side
30:52
any questions
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30:59
but yes he wants to know it’s a long rod
31:08
at ten-foot rock yes it is ten foot and
31:11
actually it’s a Dipsy diver rod that’s
31:14
what it is so it’s used to pull them
31:17
discs I think for the walleye guys yeah
31:20
so let’s not go there yes sir yeah right
31:36
here yep yeah I know you know this wait
31:44
that would be hanging here it is it’ll
31:46
sit here and bang this thing will sit
31:48
there and spinning it don’t take much
31:49
for these a spin I have done better
31:55
since I started putting noise especially
31:58
on on the seaming dragon there’s
32:00
something about the noise you know some
32:02
people diamond dragons they love them
32:04
they hate them you know not everything
32:07
that you know I might do Oh what I might
32:10
do may not work for everybody so
32:13
question
32:17
I I do better up higher
32:20
some up now some people I put them in
32:23
front right there where that wait so
32:25
that way it will kind of bang into them
32:27
some people put them down here I don’t
32:30
know if I got nope I’ve got I’ve always
32:33
got them all in front yeah because that
32:37
one’s right there it’s in front of the
32:39
of the wait yes sir
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yeah it’ll still set it yeah because it
33:08
takes a lot to bring one of these things
33:10
down you know and and there’s a this is
33:13
a three ounce weight that’s on the
33:14
bottom of it
33:15
because I want it standing up I want
33:17
that pool noodle standing up on any
33:22
other questions yes sir
33:28
duh what kind of diamond right they make
33:35
that oh really oh didn’t know that never
33:43
knew that no I have no extra yeah I
33:46
guess I better go talk to Nate yeah I’ve
33:50
never had any experience with that you
33:52
know I’ve got several sizes of diamond
33:56
dragons well okay the question do I feel
34:06
the color makes a difference well I got
34:10
every color of it I think I got every
34:12
color adenine dragon halves but my
34:14
probably my favorite and I’m not kidding
34:18
you
34:18
does this hot pink I’ve got one that has
34:22
no more paint on it you know they have
34:25
beat this thing to death
34:27
so this hot pink it’s one of my
34:30
favorites so I don’t think the color
34:33
makes that much a difference I just
34:36
think I think a lot of it is a
34:38
presentation and the bait that you have
34:41
that you’re putting on it I’m sponsored
34:48
by rig rig wrap and this is our new rig
34:51
pack which is kind of cool and is where
34:56
hope glimmers be here but I told him I
34:59
wouldn’t do this but I’m gonna do it
35:01
anyway one of the things I like about
35:04
this is because I fish for channel cats
35:07
blues flatheads so the blue bag is blues
35:13
you know the yellow bag is channel cats
35:17
so Glenn says oh man he said people are
35:19
gonna start requesting blue versus
35:21
yellow and you know I said well ok you
35:23
have to deal with that but that’s how
35:26
that’s that’s how I do it so
35:29
the blue one gals blue one is original
35:32
yeah the yellow just came out I think
35:35
maybe last year so the rig pack just
35:38
came out so it’s nice I mean this thing
35:42
it’s sweet I like it so I can just it
35:45
just I can just carry so much more stuff
35:50
no I know yeah and I got a small boat
35:53
now so I I have to be very cautious
35:56
about how much weight I actually put in
35:59
my boat any other questions yes
36:11
okay okay if you’re fishing for channel
36:16
catch this this is the board that you
36:18
want to use you can hang you can suspend
36:21
a maximum eight ounces under this board
36:27
that’s a max if you want
36:30
let me hopefully let’s see if I put it
36:32
in my back bingo the big board this I’m
36:36
fishing with blues for blues and flat
36:39
heads with this board this board will
36:42
suspend twenty ounces of weight and a
36:45
big skipjack head so but I mainly use
36:51
this on blues and flat heads so and you
36:56
know I’m big on catching big flat heads
36:59
big blues and I catch flat heads dragon
37:03
baits but I’ve got some of the biggest
37:06
baits you have ever seen that are going
37:09
you can’t throw them out the back you
37:11
got to drop them and then move the bait
37:14
forward on there that bit but a flat
37:16
head you know most people say well a
37:19
flat head won’t chase down bait yeah
37:21
Tennessee River is known for flat heads
37:24
chasing down banks but this is the board
37:27
I’m using on that channel cats the other
37:29
and I don’t have it we’ve got a a board
37:32
called an awesome crappie board it’s a
37:35
little tiny board it’s not very big
37:37
it’s only about like that and it is
37:40
really good for cats and channel cats
37:42
but you don’t use any weight on it
37:45
because it won’t support a lot of weight
37:47
I think the most weight I’ve gotten on
37:49
that thing is 3 out 3/8 of an ounce
37:52
because it’s designed to you know pull
37:56
jigs and stuff like that but I have
37:58
modified mine to cats channel cats
38:01
especially if they’re in real shallow
38:03
water and they’re working you know I can
38:06
see their backs working I’ll run that
38:08
little board which is not very big I
38:10
wish I would have brought one with me
38:11
but it’s only about that long but it’s a
38:14
it’s a real stealthy type board you know
38:16
you can slide it across
38:19
to the bank and they don’t even know
38:21
it’s coming till that bait goes by them
38:24
and then they go after it
38:29
mini bored you know we could yep that’s
38:32
it right there oh you bought one huh
38:34
yeah have you got the one with float on
38:36
it it’s got a float that attaches yeah
38:40
it’s got a float on it yeah that’s it
38:42
right there yep
38:44
so good board what’s nice about that
38:47
board is you can buy one board and it
38:49
can go either way because you can break
38:52
it loose and put it in on the other side
38:54
so but you know if you’re gonna if
38:57
you’re gonna fish you might as well have
38:59
two of them so you got one that way or
39:00
one that way the big the big channel
39:07
cats as soon as that water temperature
39:10
gets up about 45 degrees they start
39:13
moving they’ll they’ll come in on those
39:14
mud flats and stuff like that usually
39:19
what happens is in the spring when the
39:22
Sun starts coming out it starts heating
39:25
up the mud the mud and in the banks and
39:29
rocks that transmit heat that brings a
39:32
shat in and then the flat the channel
39:36
cats will come in behind it so any other
39:40
questions what’s that my personal best
39:46
channel came out of rocky Fork Lake
39:48
twenty-two pounds that’s in Hillsborough
39:51
Ohio and I caught it I caught it on I
39:57
think this rod with a diamond dragon and
40:03
the guy I was fishing with was we had
40:08
four rods out we had a 16 pounder on his
40:12
rod
40:13
I had a tin on my rod on planer boards
40:17
and I looked over that rod was down and
40:21
I thought it was home you know I didn’t
40:23
pay no attention to it and the next
40:26
thing I look over and a real sitting
40:29
there going like this and I looked at
40:31
Daniel I said how fast
40:32
are we going and he goes 0.4 I said oh
40:37
that is not hung up that there’s a fish
40:40
on there so and by that time I could see
40:43
the spindle on the reel and yeah I
40:48
thought there’s no way I’m gonna get
40:50
this in but I did get him in when
40:53
you’re if you’re dragging drifting and
40:55
stuff like that
40:56
ideally stay under point five until 0.5
41:02
miles an hour so a half a mile an hour
41:07
dragon baits as the water warms up when
41:11
a water gets up to 80 degrees man I’m
41:14
hauling I’m moving them a mile and a
41:18
half
41:19
you know they will run them down you
41:22
know if they think that baits getting
41:23
away from they will chase them down and
41:25
a mile or half but you have to have warm
41:27
water you know their metabolism is
41:29
really gearing their fattening up and
41:32
stuff like that yep yeah so like right
41:40
now you know I if I were out there
41:43
fishing right now I would be going at
41:45
point 2 to point 3 mile an hour tops
41:49
dragon baits if I get going faster I
41:52
just start throwing drift socks out try
41:56
to slow me down I do have a 10-footer a
42:00
10 foot drift sock it’s a Easterling
42:03
that you know I can throw out the back
42:06
the only problem with it you got to be
42:08
in at least 10 foot of water or it’s
42:10
going to start dragging along the bottom
42:12
and it’s gonna grab a stump or something
42:14
like that you know now I can’t get like
42:17
a good friend of mine as a guide and on
42:20
wheeler lake his name is Jason bridges
42:23
he’s tracking blues and flatheads and he
42:29
pulls the plug on the boat and it starts
42:32
filling the boat up with water so he can
42:34
slow down I can’t
42:37
not not happening with me no there’s a
42:41
reason that plug is in that boat you
42:43
know it’s just but I have seen him do it
42:46
you know I’ve looked over it Oh were you
42:49
yeah we’re standing about ankle-deep of
42:52
water but I got the boat speed down you
42:54
know he’s got drifts off out there so no
42:57
I’m not gonna happen with me any other
43:00
questions
43:01
yes sir how many on that with a channel
43:11
cat 95% at a time they will pulverize
43:15
that thing they will pass by this hook
43:19
and they will nail that hook
43:22
remember the puck the pink the hot pink
43:26
one I was talking about yeah that’s the
43:28
one that’s got our paint net knocked off
43:30
yeah that’s this is a this is a trick
43:34
that very few people know about what Oh
43:40
rocky Fork
43:41
yeah yeah cuz I don’t think I’m gonna I
43:44
think I’ll be in Alabama so I’ll leave
43:48
that with you oh yeah you yeah y’all
43:50
gonna be fishing that tournament down
43:52
there yeah
43:55
any other questions drifting wait well
44:01
I’ve got I’ve got to structure snakes
44:05
but I build a lot of my own stuff you
44:09
know so I go to the automobile places on
44:14
the web that have the shrink tubing
44:17
that’s got that are six inches long and
44:20
then I fill that full of lead and then I
44:22
make my own so I didn’t have I forgot to
44:27
pack the right bag when I packed bags to
44:31
bring for this tournament for this
44:33
seminar so but this is a structure stake
44:36
really good this thing you’ll sneak
44:38
right over top they make you know
44:40
everybody makes all kinds of dragon ways
44:43
everybody say well this is the best
44:44
dragon rate and stuff like that
44:46
the best dragon weight is the weight
44:48
that doesn’t get hung up on something so
44:50
I haven’t been able to find that perfect
44:54
weight David have you found no we lose
44:57
these things all right yeah so you just
45:00
got carry plenty of them but I I’m
45:02
having a little more success rate with
45:05
that Kirby rig because it has a tendency
45:07
of trying to walk right over top of
45:10
stuff so the weight is in front of it
45:12
but then the float I got a feeling is
45:14
trying to pull that weight up off the
45:16
bottom and then it just kind of tumbles
45:17
down so most of the time and you can see
45:20
it when you if you’re walking if you’re
45:22
on the rod if you look at the rod tips
45:25
you can see what’s going on by just
45:27
watching that rocket it’ll just it’ll
45:29
sit there and go like that so now on an
45:34
on the planer boards planer boards are
45:37
awesome just for the fact that when a
45:40
big channel cat hits one of these most
45:43
of the time what’ll happen is it’ll back
45:44
up you’ll see the board and then it’ll
45:47
come back forward and then I’ll back up
45:48
a big channel cat two things happen with
45:51
a big channel cat the board is here and
45:54
it’s gone I mean it it’s gone a really
45:58
really big channel cat the board is here
46:01
and it’s gone right there I get excited
46:04
when I see a board go straight down I do
46:08
some night fishing at night only because
46:11
my grandkids love to go out at night I
46:14
as I’ve gotten older I don’t like to go
46:17
out at night but I I like to take them
46:20
out on the lake so I won’t fish the
46:21
river at night unless I’m with somebody
46:23
like who’s who can still see what’s
46:27
going on there me I can’t
46:28
everything looks like I’m at night on a
46:31
river I think I’m coming up on a park
46:34
boat because I see the white lights are
46:36
long the banks and I just I freaked out
46:39
but one of the lights that I use is
46:42
these are lightning bugs
46:45
chubby fish outdoor this is a great
46:47
light this light will burn 400 hours
46:50
easy you know I’ve I’ve tested them they
46:54
just seem to last forever they got a
46:56
little watch battery in them and what
46:58
I’ve done is I’ve I I talked to Tracy
47:01
the other day about this but I just
47:03
drilled a hole in here this is a
47:05
concrete anchor you can just shove that
47:08
down in there it won’t come out of there
47:10
and what’s nice is if this board goes
47:12
down it gets caught in tree that that
47:15
it’ll just sit there and be in you know
47:17
like that
47:18
but the other trick that I get when I’m
47:22
on too late
47:23
I put a green one on that side and a red
47:27
one on this side yeah everybody gets out
47:31
of my way because they don’t what kind
47:34
of boat is that coming down through
47:36
there you know so so you know Tracy
47:40
makes these and green and red and then
47:42
it was like you know I’d go down through
47:45
there I’m catching fish and these guys I
47:47
can you know you know how sound travels
47:49
on a watch you guys are going how big a
47:51
boat is that
47:52
you know and you then I come by and you
47:55
jerk
47:57
you know you done got my fish you know
48:00
now everybody’s catching on to it
48:02
because they’ve seen me do it so any
48:06
other questions one other thing
48:09
at some point in time you’re gonna get
48:12
hung up I fish mainly with mono a lot of
48:17
the guys fish with braids Doug Vaughn
48:20
just came out with this and it’s called
48:22
a snag stick and I get normally I use a
48:27
rubber hose and I wrap it around the
48:29
line and then I I just try to pull it
48:33
well the problem with is it wants to
48:35
whip off with this with this snag stick
48:39
you just take the line and you wrap it
48:41
around here and then you put it in this
48:43
little groove and then you pull straight
48:46
and it it but it pops that braid right
48:50
off either it breaks it off or it pops
48:53
it off you literally pull it you just
48:55
and then throw it he’s got a mounting
48:58
thing that gets mounted on the boat and
49:00
this thing it’s got a detent ball on it
49:03
and it shoves right down on there and
49:05
it’s it’s not going anywhere so you can
49:07
mount this thing anywhere on your boat
49:09
so you can grab it I’ve used it for mono
49:13
but mono don’t be like this
49:19
pull like that because if it breaks it’s
49:23
gonna be like a whip and it’s going
49:25
I got marks on arm where it’s come back
49:28
and I mean it mono will lay you light up
49:31
I’ve never had to braid do that but the
49:34
mono duck just came out with this and
49:36
you know it’s been cold I’ve been out in
49:38
the garage trying this you know you know
49:40
for Lamanna
49:41
yeah well I had a mark right here on my
49:43
face a couple of weeks ago with 40 pound
49:46
mono that came back and nailed me so I
49:49
thought I told Douglas yeah you don’t
49:52
want to be looking at this stuff when
49:53
you’re using a snake stick but this is a
49:55
good product just came out on their
49:57
market I think ripping lips is where you
50:00
can get this thing so any other
50:03
questions
50:06
here mount you mount this on the boat
50:11
mount that on the boat and just shove
50:14
that right there it won’t it will not
50:16
come off so because it’s got that ball
50:20
detent any other questions yes
50:27
how old is which pole all these folks
50:30
all right all right now y’all know I’m
50:36
old as dirt so this is a for some of you
50:42
this rod right here came before its time
50:46
this is a Berkley ecat rod that was
50:51
built by James Moyer back in nineteen
50:56
89 I believe and it’s sold back there
51:00
for a hundred bucks nobody in their
51:04
right mind during that time would pay a
51:07
hundred bucks for a rod except me you
51:12
know I I own four of these and they’re
51:16
no longer made st. croix was a probably
51:20
the closest thing to came but Jim came
51:23
out with this rod back then so most of
51:29
my rods I’ll tell you what my rods my
51:31
reels oh thank you Robert
51:34
most of my rods reels are 20 years or
51:37
older you know I used mainly abu garcia
51:40
i use lever drag i use it 7,000 lever
51:45
drag when I’m fishing for blues and
51:47
flatheads 7000 regular Reelz channel
51:52
cats I’m almost using all 65 hundreds
51:56
the one thing I do because I’m always
52:01
constantly fishing always constantly
52:05
changing rods and you know I’ve got
52:09
several rods and reels I’ve got numbers
52:11
on all my reels so if I’m out there in
52:14
the field and I have a problem with a
52:17
real I just bring out my telephone and
52:23
reel number 12 the Paul stuck it’s not
52:27
going right or left and then when I get
52:29
back home I can fix that real I can take
52:32
that rail out of service grab one of my
52:34
other reels you know I got plenty of
52:36
spared I think I got maybe 39 40 but a
52:40
bunch I got a bunch of real I got to me
52:42
real
52:44
no say but you know and I service my own
52:48
wheels
52:49
you know I break them down I got
52:50
schematics on all of them so I spend
52:53
maybe it ends up being about two or
52:56
three days that I do real maintenance so
53:00
when it’s cold and nasty outside and I
53:03
can’t get out and fish or I can’t get
53:05
out and do something in the boat then I
53:07
work on real yes sir
53:16
I what was what
53:28
[Music]
53:30
you have some a website I don’t remember
53:33
what the one duck my older ones I’ve
53:36
been getting them out of Canada so and
53:40
then I got buddy in Alabama that had
53:43
does real repair that I can call and
53:48
he’ll get me parts he don’t he wants me
53:51
to send him to read it but I know that
53:54
not happening any other question
54:01
all right thanks hey if you honey yeah
54:04
okay I I forgot something let me show
54:08
you one other thing I use circle hooks I
54:14
snail all my circle hooks so everybody’s
54:18
always asked me how do you do that how
54:21
do you smell a circle hook see I ever
54:25
miss I remember okay so I’m going to
54:27
show you how to do this I can show you
54:29
how to do it after I’m done here if you
54:33
want to see it using regular line but
54:35
this is how I do it generally I have an
54:39
18 to 24 inch leader and this is a shark
54:44
Cup and it’s easy to for people to see
54:47
how I do this so what I do is I take the
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line I bring it through the top of the
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bring it out four to five inches bring
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the other end through the bottom and
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bring it to the shank of the hook just
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like that what this does two purposes
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every hook that you see manufactured if
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it’s not welded at the eye there’s a
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little gap right there take a look at
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your hooks when you lay this line down
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right there that covers that gap okay
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and then all you take you’ve got this
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loop you take this loop and everybody
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told me you know don’t go so fast
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alright so I’m used to doing it so you
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just turn it
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just like that and you roll it usually I
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go six seven times and then grab this
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and pull it and there it is and it’s all
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laid them coils or it’s it’s this isn’t
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as good as monofilament but it shows you
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now what happens is now you’ve got this
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line the way that that lines on the
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inside so when the channel cat grabs it
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or blue or a flathead grabs it you know
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it automatically when it pulls it’s
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gonna roll right in his mouth every time
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so it’s kind of you know I tell a lot of
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people you’re loading it up when you tie
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it that way but if anybody wants to see
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how it’s done use a monofilament come up
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here afterwards I’ll show you how it
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does how to do it
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any other questions thanks for coming
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out thanks for listening
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[Applause]
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