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Larry Muse: Proven Tactics to Catch the “Big Ones” | Official Catfish Conference ® 2016

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thank you Steve i hain’t seen this many
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people in to do with catfishing over one
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or two times I don’t know if there’s
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that many then but uh this has been a
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real great turnout and I really
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appreciate everybody involved it’s just
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getting this done I think it’s a great
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thing I think we need to give Steve and
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all of them a big hand for putting this
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thing on first thing I’d like to do is
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have prayer father in heaven we love you
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Father we thank you so much for all give
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us thank you for all you did cause we
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thank you Father for instilling the want
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to to fish in as father and keep in the
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South trouble we thank you Father for
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our kids our grandkids we pray that you
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keep them safe and we pray father you
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keep us safe and all of our friends and
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family relatives and we pray father that
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you take care of us in we pray father
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that you bless this for two catfish
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Dominion you bless those father in ælis
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let us be ever mindful father to
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preserve the species and take care of us
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who help us to keep you in it father so
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that it grow would grow right we pray
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all these things press name amen all
01:35
right I’m gonna try to share some things
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with y’all when when turkey huntin when
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I first started turkey hunting back 40
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years ago it was one of those sports
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where wouldn’t nobody tell you anything
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they wouldn’t nobody breathe the word
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about how they was killing the turkey
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and and it was it was stagnated it
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didn’t grow it didn’t grow for years and
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years there I’ve been to turkey huntin
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probably 40 years in the last 20 years
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will Primo’s come out and started
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telling people how to kill some turkeys
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and stuff and then other people seen
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that was a good thing and they start
02:14
doing that stuff and turkey huntin
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and the turkey Federation and and
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everything to do with Turkey look how
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far it’s got in the last few years just
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don’t count of people sharing
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information and so I you know some of
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these guys some of these old-timers it’s
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been in it like I have for a little
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while you know for 10 15 20 years oh
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they’re going on they don’t like me
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giving out all this information some of
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them don’t like it no but I’ll go ahead
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and give out some information anyway
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because I think that’s gonna make it
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grow and I’m gonna try to give you so
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much information that you can’t use
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although at one time anyway so I don’t
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rhythm that but anyway if somebody can
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pick up something that make them catch a
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catfish make them catch a good catfish
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and give them a little bit of confidence
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they go fish get this tournament and
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their buddies is going through they go
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say hey look here what I learned I put
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my dragon rig out there just for that
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purpose because it’s something that I
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don’t use maybe 10 maybe 20 percent of
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time I don’t really know probably 10
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percent time I only use it there’s no
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current when the fish suspend and I use
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it during windy weather if the fish are
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suspended and I got calm water I’m gonna
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go out there and suspend on those fish
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and put a lot of poles down and you can
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ease up and be in Portland and and try
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to catch them that way and and I’m more
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successful that way but when that water
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gets chopping your bait starts jumping
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up and down
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oh then there were then fish yards just
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like us sitting in this room the top
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part of that water is moving down there
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where they are eight and when that bait
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comes down through there yo-yoing you
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might catch some small fish but you
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ain’t gonna catch no big fish doing
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their thing they just think hardly gonna
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do it unless they’re about half starved
03:57
to death and then they might get hope
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though but anyway you take that dragging
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rig and put it out there and float it up
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with a boiling and ease it along and
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it’s just like a ball just going like
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that right there just maybe not in my
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class just ease along like that right
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there good and smooth kind of rolling
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with the bottom and you catch some fish
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I can’t taking you’ll catch some fish
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and you’ll catch some big fish it’s a
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big feast Reed is absolutely a big feet
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don’t be scared put a big piece of bait
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on it and always use some good stout
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land in a big hook because you fix it
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I’ve had them to stop that 24 foot bump
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with it they’re stopping and so it’s
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good rig and I and y’all get you some of
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those bottom dwellers back there’s got
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them I built them he’s got them back
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there and and that’s the only way I’m
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going to sell any man you can make your
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own you can do what you want to with it
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but there it is that’s something that
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will give people some confidence and
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help them catch some fish oh I’ve got
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some basic ideas that I use in my
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fishing and and it works a lot of the
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time I don’t think anything works all
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the time but some of this stuff works a
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lot of the time and the first part is
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I’ve got my basic ideas from when I was
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a boy I mean a little boy ain’t got my
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big boy I’m talking about five six seven
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years old and I fish with my grandmother
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and weight-based over Northeast Arkansas
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where we fished though we fished Morse’s
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Bay and we fished 26 ditch and we fished
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at the st. Francis River and we fished
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some stuff like that and my granny
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taught me how to track a catfish when I
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was about that tall and weak they
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stopped the bank and we’d go to would go
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to the creek when the water was rising
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and we’d go to the little when
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the water was rising and weird spanked
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them off the bank she knew which bridge
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fish under and we’d go catch him well as
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soon as that water fell this much I’m
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talking about nearly unnoticeable granny
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say well we go tomorrow we’re gonna have
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to go down to the river and to hold the
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river I say well how come grant you said
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I’m fishing gonna stay up here I said
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well how come she said cuz no God didn’t
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make them that way God made themselves I
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didn’t get left out there at corn row
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when that water starts going like that
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and B she’s young
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and if you ever if you if you are below
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dam a little Pickwick dam where I live
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in Mississippi I pick weeks not very far
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and I fish a quite a bit low Pickwick
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dam I can look at the water schedule and
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I know when they’re gonna cut the water
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bag and I can
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in front of chambers Creek or any of
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those creeps and in our openings or
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shallow places and set they’re about 10
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minutes for they get ready to cut that
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water back and look at your depth behind
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earn anything on it and just as soon as
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that water cuts back before you can
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really even tell it by looking at the
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bank and see the water start to drop it
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looks like holes coming out with cotton
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to you going going under your depth line
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they’re just fish coming out of their
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will then fish are in the transition
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period in their go and day out and
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they’re going deep so anytime a water’s
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Parliament now they’re sure I’ll hear
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you put it in your pipe and smoke it
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because I mean I don’t win a whole lot
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of tournaments but I’m usually where
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they’re being warned because I’m where
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the fish are and if the if the water
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falls goes on the pile the fish are
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going down and going deep they don’t God
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made them that way then you go get left
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out there in the corner and so they
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don’t even know why they’re doing it
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they just do it okay
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you know if the water is coming up the
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water goes on the rise they’re gonna
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come out of those Depot’s and they’re
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gonna start forging scouring and all
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that and so you don’t move out and when
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I go down there down the waters been on
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the fall it’s been piling on that and
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and on the following I’m fishing the
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catfish tournament best thing I see is a
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whole bunch of boats on those plants
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alright the one down there where the
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fish would go on that’s where I don’t
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play you know these guys you know and
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and I ain’t go take your own time I
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ain’t go pull up sides you take your own
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tournament day I’m gonna tell you today
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now and the only time of day a buddy
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okay and and then you might ask me that
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for a tournament and I’ll tell you I’ll
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take you son okay not gonna try to help
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all I can but I hate foolish and anyway
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there’s another Bible scriptures and I
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like to reference to is when the heart
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landed when the heart granted
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God told Noah then he said now you can
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eat me you need any living thing good
08:39
with Thanksgiving but before that I like
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it equals vegetation and he said but
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the fear and the dread of you shall be
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upon the base to feel pal there and
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efficacy so the base the file and the
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peace they fear us
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they don’t even know why they fears
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ain’t gotten a lot of deal why they
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fears they face cuz God put it in
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anything like a baked mashed up down or
09:07
they get touched with the land in the
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water something like that that fear and
09:13
that grid keep singing poop and and and
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another thing my granny told me when I
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was a boy she said if you won’t know
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what Tim Fisher doing what she’s birds
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she said God made fish and birds on the
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fifth day of creation and they act the
09:30
whole lotta life and she is short man he
09:33
was sure she was uh she sharecrop most
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for younger life and raised a bunch of
09:40
kids sharecropping and stuff and if they
09:41
took off the day went fishing in fading
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catch no fish they didn’t eat so she got
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shot in a hurry on that piece but anyway
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the the fear and the dread is something
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to just keep seeing on those feeds and
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they don’t even know why they did it
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they just do it and if I get talking
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about my granny I get a little bit tore
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down like that I sort of lose it just
10:15
anyway oh yeah yeah thank you whoever
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said that the birds and the fish are
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just alike they they they act the same
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their thing and she’s exactly right
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she said something go out you have a big
10:29
ol bunch of sparrows back there
10:31
she said go out there and be around the
10:33
corner out of them and said see if you
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can see those fairs and I he’s out there
10:39
know who he used to round the corner
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well one bird see me as I started around
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they’re all gone she said what happened
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I said I almost got to where I could see
10:49
one bird see me and they all flew off
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she said that’s what I want you to
10:53
not there when then fish without their
10:55
you ain’t got a spook but one of them
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and they’re all gone they’ll fly off
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like a flock of birds and I said well
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that’s right so you got to keep betting
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man and what up I don’t never anchor
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some of y’all hacker it’s great I used
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to hanker all time I’ve been Bass Pro
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big cat quest angler year three years
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the road and I headed through anchored
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the whole time matter of fact I just
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leaving home now first year I carried it
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and I didn’t use it and I put it in the
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carport
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don’t forget about whether you’ll say it
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obviously the basic principles all the
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time and how they don’t work
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here’s that waterfall
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maybe one
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No
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say about citroen home
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there are two
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but I’ll take you about family problems
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a lot of people have had the discussion
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of to modify we don’t have a plan a real
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big fish it’s why I’m not going back
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you get a better hook up right with my
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pal yes you know but there were other
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boys in that book and stop
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you see the fishing load the pole and
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they Turner looks they load it oh man
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come on take it
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no and turn it loose when they load that
13:53
rubber folder take it home and meeting
13:56
my dad and my stepdad my little brother
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was fishing that was fishing the WCC a
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couple years ago and when we first
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discovered that Papa had a had one of
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those those rollers one of those pin
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senators that um his brother had given
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him and he carried it with him and Wade
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left
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he had that old pole with that Rover any
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weight laughs we had some nice stuff and
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that God ever a little bit we’re saying
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we got there suspending his in the spawn
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the bat was tough and and I’d say hop
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get you sailfish pole bikers getting a
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bite you know we poked fun at him a
14:44
little bit well before the day was out I
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thought Dino I said he said I think I’m
14:48
selfish poles get you day I said get us
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water piece of him I don’t know what it
14:54
is what bigger figured out and so we got
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one a piece of them and then we got we
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got us took more we got pop another one
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and so when waits to Spearfish what you
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use those rollers now and I’m telling
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you you can take the you can take the
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hook up ratio you used to have with
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monofilament and have it with braids
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with over-over poles in the right
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situations you can have it Haven drag
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weather might use them drag with man
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when they when a fish hits it hits that
15:20
roller pole they’re stiff they’re nice
15:22
and once you get a fish on one you’ve
15:24
got all the confidence in the world you
15:25
can catch that fish it feels good it
15:28
really feels good and when they hit that
15:30
Joker on one of them dragon rigs about a
15:32
50 pound blue it looks like a wicked
15:34
tuna out there like bowled over and
15:37
screaming and its own and it’s it’s a
15:40
lot of fun using those poles but anyway
15:42
y’all check those out with bottoms
15:44
runners over there and he’s got
15:45
everything make the rig’s with the
15:47
except for the balloons and you get you
15:49
about a five-inch blown and put just a
15:51
little bit of air in it instead of
15:52
getting a little bitty balloon
15:54
a little bit balloon what it’ll do if
15:56
you blow it up about like a maybe a
15:59
Walden or something just a little bigger
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than a golf ball don’t get it very big
16:03
some em boys Mississippi they might be
16:06
here Oh a nick de Maintenon them first
16:08
time I told them how to rig one up a
16:10
name drug it about a half a day and they
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said man we got the looking way back
16:14
here and we thought we had turtles
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following us and they blow them up about
16:17
like a baseball and it just floated
16:19
these floating bait and the rig up
16:21
behind them is dragged up on top of
16:23
water but you don’t want you just want
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to put a little puff of air in that
16:26
thing you don’t want it you don’t want
16:28
it too big because you got 4 ounces of
16:30
you got 4 ounces weight in those dragon
16:32
rigs and that’s perfect and it really
16:34
goes through good with that I’ve tried
16:35
all different kind stuff I’ve had them
16:38
things in my bathtub and you know in
16:40
swimming pools and everything else
16:42
seeing how they work but but anyway at 4
16:45
ounces is perfect if you if you can’t
16:47
get that to state and you’re going too
16:48
fast I like drag between point three and
16:50
point seven with them and and like I
16:54
said it’s a big fish bait good chunk
16:56
I’ll use my roller pose for that and
16:58
everything my bumping poles I’ve got
17:00
usually five or six of them standing up
17:02
in a boat all rigged up ready to go okay
17:04
so break off and you know I don’t ever
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know when I go determine whether I’m
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gonna bump or if I’m going to suspend or
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if I’m gonna drag but I’m gonna do one
17:12
of the three angling cur that’s for sure
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and and someday night and don’t don’t
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don’t think that I’m bashing anchor and
17:20
I get my I get my my britches handed to
17:25
me every now and then by the acre
17:26
fishermen especially in cold water but I
17:30
got to Richmond last year first
17:34
tournament out of the year and water was
17:37
39 degrees and I told my little brother
17:40
I said we’re leaving that anchor at home
17:41
he said you think we all choking I said
17:43
yeah he said we got scolded a ferry to
17:46
Paducah last year in cold waters leaving
17:49
an anchor at home I said but we caught a
17:50
fish and he said yeah barely
17:53
I said well we’re gonna labor to home
17:56
again we went down there and we uh we
17:59
bumped about I’m gonna say we didn’t go
18:02
up 100 and I don’t think we went 100
18:05
yards and I popped the 52
18:07
pounder and then we went weight eating
18:10
it was our early tournament we went way
18:12
did Ian come right back and my brother
18:14
up to 46 pounder when we slowed the boat
18:17
down slowed it down real good I got it
18:21
just I think was what really that much
18:24
current but we had to use like a full
18:25
ounce leg to keep us down by holding
18:27
back at much I was holding back against
18:30
current and bumping down through there
18:31
and I was bumping it like point three
18:34
point two point three that’s just trying
18:37
to keep it as slow as I could as long as
18:38
I still move in just a little bit and
18:40
really had to look at depth finder
18:41
everything in or the bike make sure how
18:43
it’s moving but uh I just bump at things
18:46
slow just a little bit right like it man
18:48
you stick it and and if you’ve got
18:51
current them fish are not up here then
18:55
Fisher down behind stuff and that’s why
18:57
I bumped when I got current if I got
18:59
current I won’t try to stick a bait
19:01
behind every rock you never hold behind
19:03
ever ever ever logged down there I want
19:07
to I’m gonna try to put a bike behind it
19:09
for just a second as I go down through
19:11
there and and then then I use the dragon
19:17
like I said when water gets rough and
19:18
then if I got slick water and no current
19:21
I’m going to spin fish and you know now
19:25
y’all know everything I know so go out
19:27
there and get after it saw like a you
19:29
just get with him and but now you’ve got
19:33
the water on the foul and y’all are out
19:34
there anchored up on a flat and not go
19:36
by you let that be and I really like to
19:47
I really like the atmosphere here I
19:49
hadn’t met I hadn’t met any cat
19:52
fishermen and ain’t good folks and I
19:55
really appreciate you and I appreciate
19:56
everybody being the kind of people you
19:59
are every now and then we we might make
20:02
a mistake or something but we turn
20:03
around and we shake everybody’s hand we
20:06
come right back one of the things that
20:08
I’d like to overcome in this sport the
20:11
only time that I ever feel bad in this
20:13
sport is when I when I don’t do good I
20:16
feel bad
20:18
I feel real bad well it’d be nice if we
20:21
could get rid of that factory but
20:23
without that I don’t think the good
20:26
would be near as good if it wasn’t for
20:27
that bad but I’ll take you how – I’ll
20:30
tell you how it dull that pain just a
20:32
little bit and it ain’t just leave don’t
20:35
even go to the weigh-in and go to the
20:36
house that ain’t no good that ain’t good
20:39
you eat yourself up I’ll wait at home
20:40
all night and two or three days at work
20:43
and ain’t no good what you do this is
20:46
how you do it and I had to learn it I
20:47
had to be forced to learning I’m not a
20:51
good loser first thing in this sport you
20:52
need to do learn how to be a good loser
20:54
and I wasn’t for a long time I think I’m
20:57
getting better but uh my wife Kim
21:01
Freeman helped me a bunch I don’t even
21:03
know if he wants me to tell this and uh
21:05
back whenever I first started fishing
21:07
these things man my kids was at home in
21:10
school and and I had three kids and and
21:13
it was tough it was real tough I had a
21:15
little over 16 foot boat and I come in
21:19
first tournament I fish weekend I’ve
21:20
done pretty fair and and his help didn’t
21:24
show up and Joyce helped him and he told
21:27
me he said listen he said I’ll take care
21:30
of you entry fee or y’all can work it
21:32
out work if she’ll work and you help me
21:35
set up some whatever I’ll take care of
21:37
that entry fee well that made it
21:39
possible for me to fish and I’ve made it
21:42
real possible for me to fish then and
21:44
I’ve been I think in the last ten years
21:46
I’ve missed two of his tournaments and
21:48
it was just absolutely had to miss and I
21:51
really appreciate him and and what he’s
21:55
done for the catfish world the winds
21:58
blow and thanks ship back and forth and
22:00
they ship back this way in that way and
22:02
what I’m trying to say is folks let’s
22:05
keep it all positive and keep everybody
22:07
don’t burn no bridges and don’t talk bad
22:10
about nobody stuff man I love a
22:12
hummingbird depth-finder but I ain’t
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gonna talk bad about no lorentz because
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I’ve had my britches handed to me with
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the lorentz before and and it pays not
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talk bad about nothing because we don’t
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know who’s coming out with the latest
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greatest thing next year and you get a
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chance to get on their pro staff and
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they say aw
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now y’all heard how these bad-mouthing
22:33
you last year boys it ain’t good
22:35
business it ain’t good business to
22:37
bad-mouth nothing and it ain’t good for
22:39
the sport and we need to take care of
22:41
everybody if they helping turn them a
22:43
catfishing man before be positive and
22:47
the Bible tells it shows us that that
22:51
negativity is darkness and positivity is
22:55
light and the way you get rid of
22:58
darkness is shine more light on it if
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somebody’s having a negative
23:01
conversation see if you can’t put a
23:03
little add on that get something good
23:05
out of it let’s see if we can’t help it
23:07
a little bit and and I think that will
23:09
help our sport grow I think it’ll help
23:11
it a lot and I hadn’t seen state you’ve
23:16
come flagged me down yet so I guess I’m
23:18
our I guess I’m still talking does
23:21
anybody have any questions all right
23:29
the question was what I mean by the
23:31
rotor PO it’s a peon senator it’s it’s
23:36
got a roller dad it’s got a roller guide
23:38
about halfway up the pole and then it’s
23:41
got one right on the end and instead of
23:43
that braid slipping through conventional
23:45
highs when it goes through that end I
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feel if you’ll string you up a PO and
23:49
get hold up and just bend that PO and
23:51
feel it in your hand you can feel that
23:53
grave you feel the grid of the that
23:55
braid of grid in that in that pole well
23:59
you put it you pull that roller that
24:02
pole with that roller in it it’s
24:03
smoother it’s real smooth and I I’m
24:07
convinced that they know when you’re
24:09
suspending those fish pull and let it go
24:11
they feel that grit and they turn that
24:13
loose and it just kills it kills a lot
24:16
of that that friction kills law that
24:18
friction and you you just got more
24:22
hookups I’m telling you we had twice as
24:23
many poles out time and time again
24:25
another pose that I believed in that
24:28
I’ve caught good fish with and those
24:31
rubber poles out fish them just you know
24:34
just just absolutely we fished the WC
24:37
say we got second place one year and we
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had 3 of those roller poles and we had 6
24:42
glow sticks which is
24:44
a poet’s got a good soft tip that I use
24:46
for that before I got those and those
24:50
those those roller pose ever officially
24:54
weighed in that day came out for those
24:55
three with rollers only and they were in
24:57
different positions in the boat it
24:59
button didn’t have a whole lot I think
25:08
they’re called they’re called a boat
25:09
ride they are a boat ride and I’d never
25:13
I never throw a rock if anybody ever
25:15
gets anybody used a boat rails I once I
25:20
got them all right now but if I ever if
25:23
anybody ever wants the end up with one
25:24
that’s like brand-new rail because I
25:26
ain’t never thought the thing oh I do
25:28
let it down and use the boat no it’s
25:33
baitcaster it’s a baitcaster yeah when
25:35
you bump bottom which is what I do if I
25:37
got current is you know you need a you
25:40
need a baitcaster where you can throw
25:41
them you spoon and run up run a free
25:43
spool cuz you got to lend a little line
25:45
out that’s another thing I can take for
25:48
Jeff Dodd would skin me alive he knew I
25:51
was telling y’all massingill boys is
25:56
here taking hear me they gonna tell them
25:58
but uh anyway I’m gonna taking any ham
26:02
I’ve got a combination on bumping then
26:05
I’ve told people and I’ll tell you what
26:10
they’re a force to be reckoned with I
26:12
have to I have to beat them in after I
26:16
get done telling them they but here’s
26:18
here’s the here’s the formula here is
26:21
the absolute farming on bumping see what
26:26
your currents done just let her free
26:29
flow let the boat free flow you got a
26:30
spot he’ll through here you know mark
26:32
fish and you won’t bump through them all
26:34
right
26:35
the letter letter free float say you’re
26:37
going a mile and a half an hour okay
26:41
hope you’re going a mile and a half an
26:43
hour you want to go seventeen
26:45
three-quarters of a mile an hour down
26:48
through there so bump each other motor
26:49
up against the current to where you’re
26:51
still floating back but you’ve cut that
26:54
current in half this current speed in
26:55
half that way it’s gonna pull your boat
26:58
it’s gonna pull your bait out and that’s
27:00
gonna be nice and then the way you
27:02
select your lid for bumping is when you
27:09
let it out there and it hits the bottom
27:10
you don’t want to have to every time you
27:12
go to feel for the bottom you don’t have
27:14
to let out some more land about every
27:17
third work when you get into zone when
27:20
you get into jump down south on I’m in
27:22
the zone he said what are you doing that
27:24
trouble motor I’m in the zone
27:26
that’s alright I got I got trolled mode
27:29
but anyway what you got to do is put the
27:34
right lid on there to worry about every
27:37
third time you go to fill that bottom
27:38
you can’t feel it and you have to let
27:39
out about 6 inches land and then you get
27:42
about 2 more bumps and you have to let
27:44
out about 6 inches land get about 2 more
27:46
bumps you got to let out about 6 inches
27:48
away yeah that’s sweet man when he gets
27:51
like that right there I’m just I’m just
27:53
draw it up because I know something fix
27:54
to try to take my pole work from me and
27:56
when he’s right in and and you might be
28:00
running on one ounce lid you might be
28:01
running a town sleeve but that’s just
28:03
you know cut the current and hey and
28:05
then and then – she led by yeah by not
28:12
having to let out so much line and and
28:15
you know you get different variations so
28:17
it sometimes it’s hard to get it perfect
28:18
like you want it you might have to let
28:20
out twice on three bumps or something
28:22
like that but won’t patrol the motor up
28:24
and fits more than you can handle you
28:25
don’t want to change you Lea just going
28:26
what you’re doing but I’m telling you
28:28
that sweet when it gets like that it’s
28:30
that’s what you’re looking for oh you
28:37
don’t
28:38
man that’s a good question that’s
28:42
another a lot of folks go trying to bump
28:44
and they can’t never hook up with no
28:46
fish especially use the circle hooks and
28:49
that’s all I use is the circle hook well
28:52
win it when you bump down there he won’t
28:54
know how you know when to set the hook
28:57
well my my answer that is is just save
29:02
the rod just save her on let the fish
29:04
sent to hook and I’ll tell you what I’ve
29:06
done especially in cold water knockdown
29:09
area doe down there
29:10
Richmond on some of those fish we fish
29:12
down there in 39 degree water what you
29:14
actually we actually would fill I use a
29:18
bent data or versatile or just any of
29:22
those fairly light abou rods I’m on
29:27
there on the select angler group so I
29:29
get a good price on them and and and so
29:32
I use those rods and and they’re great
29:35
and I really hadn’t found much that
29:36
would even compare to them as far as
29:38
bumping they’ve got a little wind to cut
29:40
out in time where you feel the blank and
29:42
you’re on your own your finger and I can
29:44
actually feel I can actually feel those
29:47
catfish you know how you catch a fish
29:49
and you put him in your boat and you can
29:52
aim going right there I can feel that
29:57
with that finger in on that blank on
29:59
those a blue rods I can feel that fish
30:01
getting his mouth he ain’t never pulled
30:04
on I’m still bumping bottom ain’t never
30:06
pulled on it but I feel like I aren’t
30:08
and I just take him I’ll take up the
30:11
slack cuz I’m drifting back to him and I
30:12
just hold the slack and hold the slack
30:14
hold the slacking indirectly he’ll take
30:16
off now I’m old fishing they bad about
30:18
this backing up in that current
30:19
specially in cold water no pull on him
30:22
when he backs up make sure that he’s
30:25
make sure he’s turned if he’s turned
30:27
that circle hooks gonna do this job it’s
30:29
gonna get it me no doubt make sure that
30:32
fish turn and I’ve had them Nocturne
30:34
I’ve went past my pepper reeling up the
30:39
slack go plumb past them well they’re
30:41
still looking up forever when I get past
30:43
him buddy they’ve had a bad day then but
30:46
not granny France you stay with him old
30:47
Eagle Claw hooks you see alright so next
30:50
time he does that you cross his eyeballs
30:54
if that boat goes past him he’s had a
30:57
bad day even with that circle hook any
31:00
other questions alright
31:08
yeah I use a heavy a heavy action
31:12
they’re real light rod now if you know
31:14
if you’re familiar with what I’m talking
31:16
about they’re light man you can bump
31:18
with it all day and but it is a heavy
31:21
action and it works great you really
31:26
feel real good with it and you know oh
31:31
they are I’ve got some at seven foot six
31:35
and from about a six ounce late on up I
31:39
like those but when I get under when I
31:43
get down to a boy if I’m on Ohio River
31:45
under most situations or the Tennessee I
31:49
like my seven foot three and why I can’t
31:52
take it you know three inches or not
31:54
make that big a difference but it makes
31:56
all the difference in the world
32:01
any other questions yeah
32:10
okay the way I tie up a bump and rig I
32:15
use I use a three waist swivel force the
32:20
more you pay for a swivel the better it
32:22
is usually and I use a good three waist
32:25
swivel I use some of those I think are
32:28
called coastal it looks like looked like
32:30
you took two barrel swivels and shovel I
32:32
have one through the other night work
32:34
break but and and I use a use 18 inch
32:39
lead land and I use 20 pound lead line
32:44
alright I’ll use a 60 pound land to my
32:49
hook
32:49
alright and I’ll use about a 24 inch
32:53
hook line that way my hook lands a
32:55
little longer my lead line some people
32:57
do it right backwards from that the
32:58
reason I do that is because if I’m
33:01
bumping down through there and my lead
33:03
lines got him a hook line I’m still
33:06
capable of catching a fish my bait ain’t
33:09
laying right on top of my lid you see
33:11
what I’m saying he’s still hanging out a
33:12
little bit and so that’s why I tie that
33:15
like that if they were the same length
33:16
it wouldn’t be a big deal but just don’t
33:18
kind of might get tangled up a little
33:20
bit and I still got a chance catching a
33:21
fish you know because you don’t ever
33:23
know you bought 30 minutes sometime
33:25
reeled up man I’ve been bumping for
33:28
knows I come right think that good hold
33:29
just run to face you out of it you know
33:32
so that that’s why I rigged it that way
33:34
and I don’t put one of those chain
33:36
swivels ashbey’s got them over there I
33:39
put I put one of them by halfway of my
33:43
line just just in case the baits twist
33:48
and I try to hook my bike so it don’t
33:49
twirl and twist but you know sometimes
33:52
it does specially if you’re specially if
33:55
it’s crunch time and you need a short
33:56
fish or something you’ve done got you
33:58
two big ones and you need a short fish
34:00
and you want to run a fillet or
34:01
something blaze are twisting this thing
34:03
I like I’d rather run a whole skipjack
34:05
as I had a fillet twist yup
34:10
any other questions yeah
34:17
yeah yeah I am thumbing the spoo I am
34:21
thumbing spoke occasionally you get like
34:25
when we want the monsters on the Ohio
34:27
tournament that was almost no current
34:30
that day matter of fact which suspend
34:32
fished on the hole and we probably had
34:35
around 60 pounds in m5 fish and and I
34:41
kept watching the current I kept moving
34:43
over and when watching the current and
34:44
watching the current and finally I said
34:48
I’m going to say enough time they was
34:50
some fish that I knew would probably be
34:53
on the bank down there and I was going
34:55
to try to save enough time at the end to
34:58
give them as long as I could to stage up
35:00
I’m counter of a little bit of current
35:01
running but they was just very little
35:03
and I don’t most give up on the idea but
35:05
I said we that was the plan I was gonna
35:07
save the time we’ll just go ahead and go
35:09
up and fish 30 minutes for we go in and
35:12
so you know we said well we got 60
35:14
pounds that’s a respectful way yeah
35:16
that’s good you know but we go we go try
35:19
that Bank last-ditch effort and we got
35:22
uh prior to that Bank and there’s a
35:23
couple of boys there they might be here
35:25
I don’t know but they were a couple of
35:26
guys there and they were they were they
35:29
were dragging upstream right just past
35:32
where I want the fish and I seen him
35:34
there and I thought man I don’t bother
35:37
him guys but I’ll go over and ask him if
35:40
it’s all right I wouldn’t go fish where
35:41
they was I was gonna start there and go
35:43
down and I said will it be alright for
35:45
me to uh to starting right here and he
35:49
said oh yeah man we can cope one fish
35:51
all day or something
35:52
he said have a head it we do it we don’t
35:56
fish through there I said okay I
35:58
appreciate it we dropped in there and I
36:03
already had it marked for him day before
36:04
I marked a couple of logs well I got in
36:07
there but we barely had any current
36:09
barely I’m talking about it was you
36:12
couldn’t let let out in the land you let
36:14
it back there and if a boat moved back
36:15
in if you let the boat move back in all
36:17
we wasn’t moving back maybe point two
36:19
and if the boat moved back at all you
36:22
wouldn’t get no pull on your land hardly
36:24
you know just just barely enough
36:26
who you bait out from the mainland and
36:28
sure enough we went back just a little
36:31
bit and sure enough I felt with that
36:33
that a vendetta I felt would and when I
36:38
said it over ah I said I feel good boys
36:40
and I said it on the other side that
36:44
would boom I count one I don’t remember
36:47
five seven pounds something like that
36:50
well one of my partners uh Don Dalton he
36:54
popped about a 25 pounder just right
36:56
thinking well I’m getting my fish in
36:58
getting his fish netted and we get
37:00
baited up and start to drop back in and
37:02
mr. John said oh and I said are you home
37:06
because it’s pretty hanging there I said
37:08
are you hung he said oh no I got a big
37:10
fish and I said a whole yeah anything
37:14
that was at 63 7 that’s what put the
37:17
icing over cake right down and that 25
37:19
upgrade to some two for a number two
37:22
fish and but but what I’m saying is the
37:27
rule of thumb and I got you don’t give
37:28
up on bumping because you can’t let out
37:31
you know let out six inches land every
37:33
third bump no no way in the world is how
37:36
long is that as long as you got enough
37:37
current to float back and it pull it
37:40
pull that bait out away from that
37:42
mainland you’ve got a chance you got a
37:44
good chance and that’s and that’s gonna
37:47
put the fish my hand stuff and where
37:50
they need to be for you to be fishing
37:51
like that and if you go down through
37:53
those suspending over top of them yeah
37:55
one might pick up your scent trail might
37:57
smell it you know might come up in the
37:59
water column and get that he might but
38:01
he might lay right there behind that log
38:03
but if that old skipjack just falls
38:05
right down there and he’s faced real
38:06
slow and easy and nice he’s gonna suck
38:09
it up
38:20
yeah our behind you base yeah yeah it’s
38:22
in front of it’s just what you’re going
38:24
to accent it back to the boat become
38:26
it’s actually the back of the boat up
38:28
trying to holler and I got a microphone
38:30
but it’s actually the back of the boat
38:33
you know but yeah you’re going that way
38:35
so it is in front of you basically but
38:37
uh yeah yeah that’s that’s right you
38:39
want to hold back against the courage to
38:41
where you cut the currents be named so
38:43
you’ve got a two mile an hour current
38:45
cut it down to one might put you to
38:47
trouble motor on five Boulder whatever
38:50
so that you cut that so that you cut
38:52
that boat speeding HAMP it’s still going
38:54
down the river but you’ve cut it in half
38:55
and then take and pick you up a four
38:59
ounce sinker and see if that works they
39:01
don’t go to if I ever go to a three or
39:03
whatever and man I’m telling you now
39:06
it’s ain’t nothing if all you’ve ever
39:09
done is anchor fish you need to get a
39:11
hand rod knock down your hand every time
39:13
until I’ve had two I’ve actually had to
39:15
jump and grab my rod I get so going
39:18
while without catching one and just be
39:20
too fingering that real it’s just about
39:23
going you know it’s a lot of fun and
39:27
it’s productive when them fish get where
39:30
they are and it’s productive reason Jeff
39:32
Dodd does what he does that’s a reason
39:34
to massive gills do what they do and a
39:36
lot of them that’s it’s productive and
39:41
now I’ve done spilled my guts and
39:42
they’re probably going to hook me but
39:43
that’s alright I appreciate it good all
39:52
right they said it’s taking more the
39:53
farc he’s done

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